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Gegga    471

Ja, Grischuk vinner nok sitt parti. Mens Ivanchuk kan vinne, fordi motstanderen bruker masse tid. Da håper jeg mest på sistnevnte, selv om jeg også liker Grischuk!

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Gegga    471

Ja, det ble kostbart med det tapet i runde 11. Magnus spilte jo bra, frem til han ga hele poenget bort.

Etter det har det jo vært ganske imponerende. Men altså ikke nok.

Gratulerer Ivanchuk!

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JEB    486
8 minutter siden, ArcticStones skrev:

“Ivanchuk is the reigning expert on ceiling design in tournament venues.”

Og alle som har fulgt med på Ivanchuk i lang tid vet hva som menes :-) Chucky ser ofte i taket, noen ganger langt forbi, langt ut i verdensrommet til planet Ivanchuk

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Til ære for Ivanchuk kommer følgende lille historie, fortalt av Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam:

"As he walks back, the door opens and Vassily Ivanchuk enters the restaurant. Drowsily he looks around, somewhat dazed, as though he has just woken up. He puts his hands deep into his trouser pockets and  yawns without opening his mouth. What further plans he has is not yet clear. He lets his eyes wander round mistily, gives a nod in my direction without recognizing me, and takes a step forward. Behind him, Alexander Sulypa follows quietly. The waggish look in his eyes is permanently apologizing for the behaviour of his friend.

Ivanchuk gives the impression that he is heading for the section of the restaurant where he has been having his meals for the past two weeks. But halfway there, he suddenly seems to change his mind. With an abrupt movement, he swerves off and makes straight for Kasparov’s table. Approvingly, he looks at this excellent table, which, strangely enough, he hadn’t noticed before and with a second-rate actor’s emphatic nod he moves the chair back and sits down.

Sulypa doesn’t know very well how to handle the situation. He has walked on uncertainly to their regular table. Laughing with embarrassment, he whispers to Ivanchuk to join him. To no avail. The staff are more resolute. Determinedly, one of the waitresses comes in and addresses the disobedient guest severely: “Ivanchuk, this is Kasparov’s table!” Her words have little effect. Keeping her at bay with a soothing gesture, Ivanchuk adopts a concentrated attitude suggesting that he intends to experience sitting on Kasparov’s chair to the full. His trance is interrupted by Diego, who steps up to him with an expression on his face that indicates this has gone far enough. Authoritatively, he commands: “Come on, Ivanchuk, this is Kasparov’s table. Now go and sit at your own table.” Ivanchuk realizes that he will have to say something now and, turning partly to Diego, partly to the guests in the restaurant, he implores: “Please let me sit here for five minutes to absorb Kasparov’s spirit.”

Diego turns round and goes away, shaking his head. From their giggling and the looks they're exchanging, it is clear that the other guests are enjoying all this. We don't have to wait long. The door swings open and Klara Kasparova comes in, as if she has been waiting off stage for her cue. She takes in the situation with astonishing speed. She has barely set foot in the restaurant before she puts her hand over her eyes and, peering around as if she were spying like an Indian, she walks up to Ivanchuk with threatening steps. He looks up at her imploringly and softly repeats his plea. Klara Kasparova listens to him and then takes an unexpected decision. Putting her hand on his shoulder in a motherly gesture, she whispers into his ear and then quietly sits at another table. It soon turns out that she has once again perfectly anticipated her son's state of mind. Kasparov is hardly surprised when he finds Ivanchuk sitting on his chair and he joins his mother without further ado. After the situation is explained to him, he speaks a few words to Ivanchuk, laughing kindly, and then concentrates on the menu."

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JEB    486

Ser det diskuteres om det var urettferdig at Magnus tapte på kvalitet, og om det burde vært omspill. Vel, reglene var klare på forhånd, ingen tvil denne gangen. Og er det noen som har hatt "hellet" på sin side i Tiebreaks og omspill, så er det vel Magnus. Nei, dette unner jeg Ivanchuk - endelig holdt han nervene under kontroll. Synes Magnus opptrådte veldig sympatisk da han klart og tydelig gratulerte ham, og viste både ham og Grischuk stor respekt. 

Hadde diskusjonen skjedd før turneringen startet hadde den vært mer interessant. Skjer det samme i Lynsjakk ønsker jeg meg omspill, men reglene er kanskje de samme?

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JEB    486

FunFact: Begge verdensmestere i hurtigsjakk er fra Ukraina, og er født i samme by (Lviv)!  Anna spilte forresten for Slovenia i perioden 2004-2014.

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Gegga    471

Greit nok tie-break. Magnus kunne jo bare spilt bedre, så hadde det gått greit. :-)

Dersom man ligger i toppen fra starten av, møter man flere sterke spillere. Da er det sterkere å ha 11 poeng, enn hvis man vinner de 4 siste - fordi man får "enkel" motstand. Så det er helt fair at Ivanchuk vant. Det var han jeg håpte på, dersom Magnus ikke vant.

I lynsjakken håper jeg at Magnus tar seieren, men det er langt fra sikkert. Både Ivanchuk, Nakamura, MVL, Grischuk, Nepo og flere kan stikke av med den seieren. Greit nok at Magnus er favoritt, men det er mer sannsynlig at en ANNEN vinner. Dersom Magnus f.eks. er på 20%, og resten fra 15% og nedover, er det allikevel 80% sannsynlighet for "en annen". Jeg vil kanskje vurdere sannsynlighet for Magnus-seier til 30% eller noe sånt?

 

16 timer siden, Inge «Insan» Harkestad skrev:

Til ære for Ivanchuk kommer følgende lille historie, fortalt av Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam:

Herlig historie, Inge! Det kan nok skrives flere bøker om Ivanchuk! En fantastisk personlighet.

Jeg har jo vært på noen turneringer etter hvert, men aldri hatt gleden av å treffe Ivanchuk. Hadde vært gøy om han ble invitert til Norway Chess!

 

 

 

 

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Sjakkspira    523
20 minutter siden, Gegga skrev:

Greit nok tie-break. Magnus kunne jo bare spilt bedre, så hadde det gått greit. :-)

Det er jo ikke det at Magnus ikke vant. Jeg er enig med Magnus i at det hadde vært bedre med omspill. Vinneren burde ha topp poengsummen alene.

At dette er en vanlig ting å gjøre i sjakk betyr ikke at ting ikke kan gjøres bedre. Jeg håper de endrer dette neste VM. 

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